So after Gio released his articles, I made a post briefly going into my experience interacting with him and how I personally felt he was asking me a leading question that I included a screenshot of here: https://www.fruityrumpus.com/forums/reply/68964d40eb0e1f3bcab321ae
Since posting this, I've seen quite a few people sharing it around and discussing it. I realized after the fact that if people might find it useful or informative, there's really no reason not to just share my full and complete conversation with Gio before he posted his article.
My honest opinion of the interaction below is that it was generally just very uncomfortable. Even after explicitly stating that I was not comfortable continuing the conversation, he continued pressing me and tried to lock me into answers based on his own conjecture if I continued to not respond. I'm not a journalist and I don't know if this is like considered acceptable and standard journalistic practice, but it made me feel trapped in a conversation I made very clear I was no longer comfortable having.
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Ragebaiters deserve the death penalty. /lhj
"I will assume it is unless you request that I don't."
Ok Gio.
I agree with most of the Gioheads here. He was clearly mistreated (given that his version of events is correct) but, like, FUCK man. He is just completely unable to keep his foot out of his mouth.
Hot metal looks like cold metal, but feels different.
oh actually i was wrong gio did sign an NDA but he didn't sign the license which is like...well hard to get a license without signing one.
- fuck off prepz
Also, this is not productive, but I just can't help myself. It's not muckracking. It's muckraking.
Hot metal looks like cold metal, but feels different.
Things are getting heated so I'm going to ask everyone involved to maybe tone down the sass and avoid ad hominem attacks please.
-KeCh
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i loathe speculation is a singularly hysterical thing to say when one of ur most popular articles that you've built ur reputation as a 'journalist' on opens with:
"I cannot emphasize enough that this is my description of claims someone else made and relayed to me. I have done as much follow-up and confirmation/debunking as possible, but this is an article about an accusation.
The only things I’m treating as truly confirmed are the ones that I was able to independently confirm, which I’ve noted. Enough of it is verifiably true that it was worth telling people about, but I cannot personally endorse this account. It’s not my claim!"
...and includes such gems as:
"It is highly likely that by 2014, this source no longer worked at What Pumpkin, and these descriptions of late-2014 are only semi-informed speculation,"
"If [What Pumpkin] had been transparent about the reasons for the change, there’d be less need [by me] to speculate, at any rate."
"This means that some of these claims are most likely speculation, although..."
like. speculation is the bedrock of gio's whole brand. why even say this???
He publishes ultra detailed receipts with identifiable information that didn't need to be published to get the point across then acts like it was inevitable that unrelated parties are getting damaged as collateral. That ain't whistleblowing, that's yellow journalism.
The traffic on his site is likely highest than it's been since the Sarah Z vid.
gio needs pages and pages of "speculation" to make hussie seem like a really really scary monster who totally gives domestic abuser vibes and um uh you know the scorpion and the frog yeah the scorpion and im the poor little frog just trying to give a ride to this guy (uh um i mean they?) but they HATE ME and they HATE YOU TOO~~~ because otherwise the premise of "artist and writer i've said crazy shit about in the past is requiring me to walk it back if i want to keep my PERSONAL BRAND around distributing THEIR WORK" falls a little flat.
and as someone who has taken a course that involved sessions about interviewing - this is not at all how one does it. this is someone (inelegantly) looking for a very specific soundbite (or in this case, a screenshot).
also thank you cami for sharing the full context, i'm wishing you the best and as much strength as possible with all of this T_T
yeah if people want to delete my posts if they bring up people who would like to remain anonymous please do so. it is not my intention to drag people into this mess
- fuck off prepz
"Its not my intention to drag people into this mess" says person intent on dragging as many people as possible into this msss.
this is just gio asking how much control hussie has over who becomes involved with FRAF, which is a totally reasonable question. This is the worst dirt yall have to share on this person after half a week? makes the accusations of transphobia and such against gio look flimsy at best.
@squiddo??? 1) we literally agree about this topic, lmao, why am i catching strays 2) I just didn't want to mention the person Cyto referred to if it might cause them to get harassed 3) i think you are confusing me with someone else lol i did not mention anyone new in my posts
- fuck off prepz
i have no problem with you or anyone in this forum.
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Sorry people with no AV all look the same to me lmfao genuinely didn't mean to hit you with a stray.
RE: Polyethelene
This isn't dirt, a takedown, or an official response. I'm not a representative of Homestuck, I am sharing my experience and full context of it because people seemed interested when I was talking about it before.
@squiddo all good! i'll take that as a hint to change my profile pic! i appreciate the apology
- fuck off prepz
@Polyethelene "this is just gio asking how much control hussie has over who becomes involved with FRAF" oh girl lmfao. if you take this in good faith you better be taking everything hussie has ever said in good faith too.
also squiddo please take a breath before posting this isn't twitter.
Love the consistent "Hussie's friends call him him! hussie uses any pronouns!" Like yeah and I don;t have a pronoun preference but if someone wrote a long ass post about me with this tone and only used she/her for me it would come off like they were trying to paint me as either "evil cisgender karen" or "evil misandrist cis lesbian"
(and that's without the ass-covering tone of the footnote)
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