So after Gio released his articles, I made a post briefly going into my experience interacting with him and how I personally felt he was asking me a leading question that I included a screenshot of here: https://www.fruityrumpus.com/forums/reply/68964d40eb0e1f3bcab321ae
Since posting this, I've seen quite a few people sharing it around and discussing it. I realized after the fact that if people might find it useful or informative, there's really no reason not to just share my full and complete conversation with Gio before he posted his article.
My honest opinion of the interaction below is that it was generally just very uncomfortable. Even after explicitly stating that I was not comfortable continuing the conversation, he continued pressing me and tried to lock me into answers based on his own conjecture if I continued to not respond. I'm not a journalist and I don't know if this is like considered acceptable and standard journalistic practice, but it made me feel trapped in a conversation I made very clear I was no longer comfortable having.
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@Margot Kix you know hussie’s lawyers called him him, right? Get over yourself lol
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im gonna be blunt and a little mean but gio sounds...exhausting to talk to.
in any case, this is Interesting. thank you for sharing
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This conversation is bizzare to me because it's predicated on the idea Gio has some sort of basic human right to distribute copyrighted material (the asset pack) without a license for money (Gio has a Patreon). He does not. Literally any other IP would have immediately issued a DMCA. Hussie was willing to work with Gio (give him a free license, pay him), despite Gio accusing them of squandering 2 million dollars, on the condition that Gio sign an NDA, a thing that is extremely par for the course in any creative industry. Gio said no, and so he was no longer allowed to host Hussie's asset pack, which is Hussie's intellectual property, on his website, which he uses to badmouth Hussie, that links his patreon, where people can pay Gio to continue to both host Hussies copyrighted material and shit talk Hussie.
I am so sick of this fandom (reddit specifically) derailing every conversation about homestuck into a conversation about evil Hussie and poor innocent Gio. Makin has now unpinned the teaser trailer from reddit's community highlights but kept the pin for Gio's blog post. Bluh.
Speaking of the trailer. I can't fucking wait for the Hazbin hotel fans to come and breathe new life into this fandom. We need fresh faces. I want to see a bunch of excited 14 year olds making memes and writing karkatxreader fanfiction. I want to see grey paint get everywhere. It's about time. Bring on the bucket jokes.
- fuck off prepz
@bluebootyraider you know if you read the article you’d realize Gio did sign the nda? And the license had absurd terms, to the point where bamboosh, an unrelated party to the Hiveswap articles quit the project and never wanted anything to do with Hussie or homestuck ever again. Lol
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RE: @ancientJadeTotem (he/him)
Once again. This isn't about Hussie's pronouns. Y'all just assume it is and get mad about it. Talk to a trans woman once, ever, I am begging you.
-- The Butch
We don't care dude we've argued this to death. Gio's a shit person trying to stir shit again and lying while doing it.
@Margot Kix please enlighten the class on who this could possibly be about then, the claims about trans misogyny online are exclusively about Hussie
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I'm starting to think this guy is Gio lmfao
They're actually not exclusively talking about Hussie. I believe Gio was involved with harassing a trans woman named Kate Mitchell who was a writer for Homestuck. Which is what most people mean when they say Gio has a history of being transmisogynistic. Also, Andrew Hussie is non-binary. People can use whatever pronouns they want for Andrew Hussie, but to ignore this fact about her is silly. You just assume because Andrew Hussie is more masc presenting that no one can be trans misogynistic to them. This is not true. It is also a lil weird to brush it off when multiple queer women who do work for Homestuck have stated they don't exactly feel comfortable with the way Gio talks to them.
Also Pronouns =/= Gender. A person can very well prefer He/Him and also still identify as a women, and vice versa.
You're able to distinguish between all these "It's Actually About Ethics in Video Game Webcomics" dudebros? You impress me.
Go back to reddit dude no one cares about the shit you wanna smear. we're not stupid.
Okay I mean I may not know every single thing about Kate Mitchell and I was barely even interacting with this fandom when that whole shitstorm happened, but I do indeed remember a litany of incredibly transphobic things being hurled her way that didn't even have anything to do with her problematic actions and which were more inline with the fact that she made this fandoms premiere waifu trans in a dubiously canon offshoot Visual Novel.
And I also can tell from the way you keep repeating "LOL ANDREW HUSSIE'S LAWYERS USE HE/HIM FOR HIM YOU FOOL" that you are not #WokeEnough to understand the nuances of a Gender queer persons identity or how Gio's previous actions with a trans woman who was harassed could spoil peoples perception of him now when he is again embroiled in controversy with another trans person.
In fact i'm pretty sure the reason I stopped interacting with the homestuck fandom was because every other day on my fucking Tumblr dash was someone calling Vriska incredibly weird and gross words because she was "trans'd" lol it was terrible and awful and ughhhhh
RE: @ancientJadeTotem (he/him)
It's about how Gio talks about Kate Mitchell. It's about how he constantly compares himself to a victim of domestic abuse becuz a queer creator doesn't like him. How he'll come to transfem creators and hound them with speculation and bad faith, and then weaponizes the tendency people have of not believing trans women.
And yes, I mean Kate fucking Mitchell. Your most feared bogeywoman. The one who was rude and bitchy and mean. Yes, that one. Becuz unlike you, I don't believe trans women I don't like deserve to be harassed. You can read the article and see the way Gio talks about Kate, but you either haven't read it or, most likely, just don't see any issue with it. Which btw, is why people like me don't feel safe around people like you.
I am done responding to transmisogynists without avatars for the day. Any future questions should be directed to Kofi, I'm done doing this shit for free.
-- The Butch
thank you for sharing the whole conversation! i think the snippet you DID show was enlightening enough, but honestly, the full picture is even sillier.
this whole situation (compiled with literally everything m*kin is pulling on twitter/the HSD) is absolutely ridiculous lmfao. the real crux of the thing should have been hussie being a shit with lawyers but even that is highly devisive because. homestuck is hussies work. hussie... owns the IP rights... copyright law is stupid but its how the cookie crumblies
Remember when someone did a kate mitchell call out post that accused her of like 47 different war crimes and the only evidence they had was a single tweet saying she doesn't like Gamzee?
- fuck off prepz
Yes, this person is just going off topic (not Margot she has very valid points) this person is, no pun intended...trolling. And participating in what the kids these days call Ragebait.