Have you ever seen a theory that you felt is just wrong and you hate it

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Wednesday, August 20th, 2025, 11:24 PM29 days ago

[This thread will dive into some Deltarune spoilers. And mayhaps other media spoilers, depending on the replies I could get.]


Have you ever seen a theory that yall felt is just wrong? Like example, I see Homestuck class speculations, and my gut reaction is "WRONG!" But I dont argue about it because my reasoning is just as baseless. I'm not going to say my opinions on the classes due to said lack of evidence lolll. I will talk about something else here as a better example tho.


I will say that I don't like the theory that Carol from Deltarune is the knight. The sword the Knight summons LOOKS like a bat, before they swing it and transform it into a sword shape. Plus, I saw a REALLY compelling argument for Dess Knight. I saw a post on Tumblr that compared the Knight's movements to Figure Skating poses, and guess what's in Dess's room? ICE SKATES!


Anyways yeah. Anyone who doesn't like a popular fan theory from any fandom, feel free to explain why you don't like it. It can even be as simple as complaining about "it was all a dream" theories, which I also find stupid and wrong rip.

— matpat

matthew
Wednesday, August 20th, 2025, 11:47 PM29 days ago

snowy is the knight

Squiddo
Wednesday, August 20th, 2025, 11:48 PM29 days ago

My god your RIGHT

— matpat

matthew
Wednesday, August 20th, 2025, 11:48 PM29 days ago

Rudy.,..... is not the knight lol I have a friend who's really into that theory and i just,,,, don't think it's correct lol

Blueberry Lunascratch
Wednesday, August 20th, 2025, 11:51 PM29 days ago

i just legit don't understand "papyrus is the knight" believers. i just can't.

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Wednesday, August 20th, 2025, 11:53 PM29 days ago

I hate practically all classpecting (other than like self-inserts/sonas/etc) that isn't from a narrative role perspective. It's just taking the meta basis out of it.

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sword
Wednesday, August 20th, 2025, 11:55 PM29 days ago

^ This is in the deltarune forum I think lol T_T


But still valid. As for Deltarune I am not a big fan of "Carol is the Knight". I think its just pointing to it being Dess, however I do think Dess and the Knight are working together in a way which explains why Carol is so sus.

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elegantSpinstress
Thursday, August 21st, 2025, 0:10 AM29 days ago

@elegantSpintress This forum I made is for "any media" dw. Yeah I mentioned Deltarune, but that was just an example I used. I allow other fandoms theories because I am curious :]c

— matpat

matthew
Thursday, August 21st, 2025, 0:26 AM29 days ago

ohh okay lol i just couldn't read what thread this was in T_T but yeah I just don't think carol is the knight. I don't have any homestuck theories I really disagree with all that much.

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elegantSpinstress
Thursday, August 21st, 2025, 0:43 AM29 days ago

"Have you ever seen a theory that you felt is just wrong and you hate it"


Pal that sums up so many experiences with fandom.


Let's just list a few things.




AWFUL, AWFUL THEORIES, I WANT TO BLEACH MY BRAIN


- Kaworu in Neon Genesis Evangelion does not really love Shinji, people are just "misinterpreting" that he's expressing the love God feels for all creation

- The Engineers in Alien/Prometheus are not the Space Jockey species, they just got inspiration from their technology and morphology

- Ancient vampires in Legacy of Kain have 3 fingers on each hand and 2 toes on each feet because (3x2) + (2x2) = 10, 10 being the number of the Pillars + the Reaver

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Oasis Nadrama
Thursday, August 21st, 2025, 0:51 AM29 days ago

@elegant.... thank you. I clicked on this from recent threads and had no idea... I was wondering why there would be Deltarune spoilers on a Classpecting discourse thread LMAOOOOOOOO

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sword
Thursday, August 21st, 2025, 1:02 AM29 days ago

@sword Sorry for any confusion! This is supposed to be a general discussion for media. So that means you're not wrong for bringing up classpects! Heck, I mentioned it in the post first lol! So you can continue if you wish! Since it falls under my subject "Have you ever seen a theory that you felt is just wrong."


And if you have any other theories from different fandoms youre in that you dont agree with, you are free to mention them too! Like I said before, I am curious about things, even if I dont understand fully what people talk about lol. I also wanna see how many people feel this same gut reaction as I do.


^___^

— matpat

matthew
Thursday, August 21st, 2025, 1:18 AM29 days ago

my thory is tha t gasleak : (

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MEat Blumber
Thursday, August 21st, 2025, 1:19 AM29 days ago

Oh no!!!

— matpat

matthew
Thursday, August 21st, 2025, 2:34 PM28 days ago

Would also like to add something that will seem contrary to the spirit of the thread, but I don't think it is.


Outside of a few MINDBLOWING bad reads I generally don't react to, I think absolutely bad analysis is almost not a thing.


By that, I mean that even the most "absurd" hypotheses can be interesting. They can be creative. Sometimes they evolve into works of their own.


Also the most off-topic angles can provide the most fascinating results. Because when you're approaching a work transversally, for example analyzing the TV mise-en-scène of a soccer game through the prism of class struggle and syndicalism, Titanic through the repeated visual patterns observed in philately, or Jurassic Park through the prism of Muslim mythology, you're creating a GIGANTIC CROSS-SECTION OF THE WORK. And with this cross-section, you will unexpectingly discover a lot of elements, you will unearth symbols and dynamics no one has paid attention to before.


So generally speaking, I don't tend to speak badly of batshit, or simply seemingly unfitting, theories. Because I like the kind of perspectives they bring.

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Oasis Nadrama
Monday, September 15th, 2025, 8:48 PM3 days ago

a little silly to bring up a sort of unrelated fandom but i'll never get why so many ppl believe the chasities from the hatchetfield musicals have nibbly as their patron lord. like. at least to me, nibbly seems to be more about competition and the endless desire to (in the words of hit musician jamie paige) "watch the line go up line go up up up up up up". the whole thing with the chasities is like. the fear of god. especially with grace. like. they do all of that with the notion that god is constantly watching them and judging their every move. i sure wonder if there's a lord in black whose whole thing is the panopicton and watching! (it's blinky. i'm saying that the chasities are more like blinky narratively.)



Monday, September 15th, 2025, 8:52 PM3 days ago

Hey theres no such thing as an unrelated fandom to talk about, those were just examples I said. This thread is for all fandoms!! :]

— matpat

matthew
Monday, September 15th, 2025, 8:54 PM3 days ago

So don’t feel silly ^__^

I never heard of hatcherfield musicals but thats pretty interesting to know :0

— matpat

matthew
Monday, September 15th, 2025, 11:00 PM3 days ago

ok great i'm gonna keep bitching


while not a theory per say, i really hate that reading of max jagerman (also from the hatchetfield musicals) where he's just a cute little himbo cinnamon roll uwu let's ship him with richie uwu as if nerdy prudes must die isn't like "max is a horrible person and the school system doesn't care". like. there's an entire song about how people are scared of him. he starts killing all of those people, not because of the whole dismemberment thing, but because HE IS NOT THE TOP DOG ANYMORE. because THE NERDS ARENT CONSTANTLY HIDING IN FEAR OF HIM ANYMORE. yes, there obvious nuance there but like. the other characters would NOT forgive him that easily. (and not to bitch about michie but i genuinely don't get it like they interact Twice. one richie is visibly scared of max and the other is when RICHIE GETS MURDERED. i don't see the love there)



Tuesday, September 16th, 2025, 0:04 AM3 days ago

Seconding whoever said papyrus was the knight being silly. I dont get it, esp with how deltarune seems 1000 times more interested and concerned with the new characters than the characters from undertale, and like. Papyrus was a big character in undertale, toby wouldnt make him a major character in deltarune.

Gerson doesnt count because he was a shopkeep in undertale and iirc was there to help susie along in her character arc.



Tuesday, September 16th, 2025, 0:21 AM3 days ago

I dont even think this counts but I really didnt like and didnt get the "tobi is obito" theory I thought it was just like "oooh they have similar names and you dont see his face so its gotta be oooh" and I actually had stopped actively reading when that was confirmed in canon and I learned this via my manager when I worked at gamestop and I was so shocked I like unintentionally yelled but like we were in the backroom (did like stock n stuff) so it was fine but Still. what the hell man. why I mean Naruto at that point was just full of nonsense and asspulls but cooome ooooon

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