i agree with autumn here for the most part. and i think there's a bit of an issue with devil's advocates feeling a strong need to hash through anything the reddit spits up for posterity or whatever.

but the reality of the situation is: this isn't the subreddit. many of us are here because we find the subreddit toxic and unpleasant to be around. i can wax poetic about how i don't think the redditor's are arguing or theorising in good faith, but ultimately i do feel the issue here is just that if we wanted to debate the reddit theories, we'd all be on the subreddit.

and honestly it would be kind of nice to have a single official news thread that doesn't end up getting derailed with this stuff. like, at the very least, we could afford to simply make a new thread if anyone really wants to rehash things-- and i'm not saying discussing this stuff is inherently bad or shouldn't be allowed-- but it kind of sucks that the first announcement thread on the topic has been 2 pages of almost exclusively discussing how redditors feel about it.

it's like if nasa made a post about upcoming space programs and the discussion was entirely made up of people arguing about moon landing conspiracy theories.