In topic: "Homestuck Feels like it has a Discomfort With Achillean Romance and Characters."

Monday, September 1st, 2025, 7:44 PM17 days ago

I can't really say if CallieRoxy is sapphic or not because I do believe that at one point Roxy identifies as a man, but he was also just nonbinary at one point. But I also know plenty of transmen who still use the label as well, so I can't really comment on that front. I do like them, though I was also in a different thread where I discussed how the comic kind of treats Calliope's asexuality a bit oddly T_T. I can say, however, that I think Rosemary and Vrisrezi are also really decent depictions of sapphic women. I don't really agree with the idea that Dirk breaking up Rosemary via narrative mind control and belittling Kanaya's love for Rose the whole time isn't indicative of slightly lesbophobic rhetoric. Also, let's not totally rewrite what was going on when Rose was "sick" with her whole Ultimate!Self thing, I think it is a bit strange to act as if Dirk wasn't intentionally manipulating a woman who was clearly not in her best mind, and who did indeed make them break up while he was about to turn her into a robot by having her wife say things that he was making her say just to give Rose peace of mind that what was about to happen was okay.


You can say that Rose after the whole robotification is somewhat in control because she has omnipotence now or whatever, which is true, but Dirk definitely removed a lot of the agency she had before all of that, and that's kind of the point, like what he's doing IS bad and he definitely shouldn't have done it lol T_T Part of manipulation is when you convince someone to do a thing that is harmful to them, but beneficial to yourself and that is what happened with Rose becoming Rosebot. And Rose and Kanaya breaking up or having marital issues in a world where nobody can think clearly due to the universe they're in needing constant drama isn't real proof enough to me at least that Rose and Kanaya would've broken up the whole time or whatever, I think that is a drastic misrepresentation of both their characters.


Candy is everyone's worst traits dialed up to like 11, but in Meat the same people who act irrationally and who have 0 handle on their cognitive functions and ability to hold empathy for others are suddenly capable of doing all of that and more. I think because Rose is an actual Robot with god powers it's unfair to say what she does in Candy is just proof she'd have always done that lol.


As for Vrisrezi, eh idk I don't exactly see a lot of the issues people have with them. I think they're the perfect example of Doomed Yuri, I love how they always want to strive to be together despite all of their own issues and the world around them. I am also a highkey Vriska apologist though, so maybe I am biased </3 I just don't think Vriska's actions warrant as much punishment as people crave for her. They're two sides of the same coin as well, and for what many people hate about Vriska they'd also have to hate Terezi for and vice versa because they're so entwined with one another and don't exactly disagree on certain points. Nobody thinks Terezi's idea of becoming a legicerator that basically harasses and hounds the prosecution is bad because it's funny, but not so much when you remember the whole context behind the Alternian justice system anyway, and how she will most likely be sending lowbloods to be culled for petty crimes...like crossing the street the same time as a highblood or some shit lmao.


They're both lowkey kind of crazy and violent, which is why I think they're perfect for each other because they also want to change and just have different ideas for how to do that. I wouldn't say Terezi is some revolutionary that wants to upend the whole system, but she's very much someone who wants to help people, to be seen as useful and helpful to this system that perpetuates Violence, to be able to choose when violence is necessary and so forth. Whereas Vriska is all about doing things that are unpleasant for the greater good, using violence as a tool to get things you want because you know what's best and having as much control over your own life without an inherently violent system holding YOU down the whole time. Being shackled to the principles and ideals of heroism vs Doing what needs to be done regardless of how that makes you appear are, I think, one of the larger themes they represent and this is not a Vrisrezi analysis love post so I'll stop now </3





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