In topic: "the UHC situation"

Tuesday, August 12th, 2025, 2:39 AM2 days ago

re: temporarilytaciturn


Yeah I mean fair.

It's just drama between one of the least communicative people on the planet (Hussie) and someone who's acting in a way that I just personally can not trust. Like obviously some of the claims in Gio's articles are just insane for the sake of being insane (especially the 2nd article, or the weird obsession with comparing Miles and the HS team with habitual abusers) but I can't tell if it's malice or if they really did feel that way. Like yeah if you just look at the evidence he gives it paints a really bad picture, but you really do need to see it in the context of an article that's claiming Andrew fucking Hussie of all people of running a coordinated harassment and NDA campaign for over a year. I don't even think Hussie could manage a lemonade stand for a month without problems coming up.


Until someone actually confirms the content of of Gio's articles, the things inside are very hard for me to believe. Obviously I'm more than ready to eat my words, but Gio's article was clearly not a spur of the moment operation, even according to his own article he would've been writing it since July, and the "faulty construction" of his article, at least to me, is reading as "inherently bad foundations".


I also don't think Miles not mentioning any factual evidence in his response is admittance or confirmation, you need to remember that Gio in his article pretty much said that anything and anyone connected Miles needs to be stopped immediately because Gio claimed that Miles is an evil cruel person who's attempting to manipulate everyone. Quoting directly from Gio in the section "What is wrong with this guy" - Miles "rcktpwrr"


"Miles is an odd case; he clearly works very hard to project this casual and friendly tone, but then he’s so obviously complicit in the worst of the lying and manipulation. Fundamentally Miles is what Andrew demands him to be: loyal. Miles appears to have been recruited out of the Homestuck fandom and is a self-described “diehard, longtime Homestuck fan” Now he’s working directly as a fixer for this mythic figure. I am of the opinion that Miles does bear some fault here; he knew what was going on, he knew what he was doing, he knew what he was participating in, and he signed his name to all of it anyway. Ultimately his willingness to act as a proxy for all Andrew’s worst qualities means he cannot be trusted, so it worries me to see him perform as some kind of liaison"


later, in the section "Don't support this" Gio says

"You especially shouldn’t support this right now, when the currently running major Homestuck project is running a Patreon whose money pays Andrew and Miles. Makeship Karkat isn’t worth having when he pays these salaries. Off the back of this story I’m just going to come out and make an explicit value judgment: you should not be giving Homestuck your money, and if you are you should stop."

Miles' response is just a denial of these 2 parts, because it has to be. In a perfect world where Gio was more concerned about getting his info out there, he wouldn't have put a direct call to action against the people he's accusing in it, because all he's managed to do was force a statement that never needed to get made, and muddy the waters even more.


Ok I think that's all I can really say on the matter. I'll wait on a response from the people who will respond, but I have a feeling this is about all I'll ever be able to feel about the situation. Distrust and annoyance at a lack of communication.

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