In topic: "the UHC situation"

Monday, August 11th, 2025, 7:18 PM2 days ago

@perihelion
This exactly. The actual problem is Hussies alleged conduct during the negotiations, not the requests they made during them. Hussie is entirely in their right to take down the UHC. If the articles were a problem, they should have been a problem from the start. If this was the case none of this would have happened because Gio would say "No, I won't retract those articles" day 1 and they would (hopefully) go their separate ways. (If they proceeded to threaten Gio even in that hypothetical case, he would have an even stronger case.)

I honestly don't think that Hussie changed their opinion on the articles during negotiation. I think Hussie's opinion on these articles was clear from the outset, which makes it even worse that they would misrepresent that. However, even if they DID change their mind mid negotiation, the correct course or action, especially as the party with essentially all of the power, is to request a change in terms in good faith with no threats on the table. They did not do this, and instead unilaterally changed the terms and threatened Gio if he did not accept them.

It frustrates and worries me that Miles' middling at best response has managed to reframe the discussion away from this for many people. I am not willing to say this was an intentional manipulation, because I don't know Miles at all, but I do wish this response was not put out at all. It does not accomplish anything good.

Lastly, I want to reiterate as many others have done that if you have a solid conclusion on this yet you are wrong.

Hot metal looks like cold metal, but feels different.

Millie